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Re: Just a notice

Post  MC Sics on Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:52 pm

Coolman2007Gold wrote:2 words A Andre "PISS OFF"

That's some funny shit.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  GhostEye on Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:20 am

2 words A Andre "PISS OFF"

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Re: Just a notice

Post  rubendal on Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:10 pm

Lol like dragons saying hes probly just trying to look important to others. And yeah dunno whats with this stupid bandwidth exceeded thing. cant even click on it...

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Killer on Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:07 pm

Well for once, i am on your side. I honestly dont see where this prick is going with shit. What does he expect to honestly do..... Suspect

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Dragnoxz on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:54 pm

A Andre wrote:It does not matter WHO gave them to you, how long ago, or how the file has been modified. If it is ORIGINALLY created and copyrighted by the company, then to redistribute it for FREE, is against the law and against the companies copyrights.

You are re-distributing PAYWARE addons, WITHOUT the original authors permission. Thus you are taking money away from a mans hard work.
You are not allowed to do so, no matter how you got it. To give it away for free without giving any credit to the original author or even asking for his or her permission is extrememly dishonorable and proves the maturity level of this online group.

On another note, I myself have no issue with anyone associated with this online group. I know none of you personaly and have no intrest in getting to. I am not this "Killer" or "Corsi" you mentioned before.
I am just a legal advisor for many other small online companies and am making you aware of the actions i am taking to ensure the companies i listed above have thier work protected from illegal re-distribution.

There is no one on this planet that can tell anyone what they can or can not do in their own home. I put hard work into my sceneries, but I am not greedy enough to persue everyone who does not pay for them. You have Grudge, with our group, and blame the group, because it must have defeated or messed up your selfasteme.

Be off before someon drops a house on you, as well. We know our rights, and don't need someone telling us what we can or can't do. IF those sites care enough, they will contact us, directly by E-Mail. And in saying this, I do expect that someone will create an un-afficial E-Mail and contact me claiming to be a representitive of one of those sites.

You are on dangerous ground if you think you can boss anyone in this Free Speech area. You are lucky this is a Free Speech Forum, otherwise your pathetic comments would be removed, and so would your pathetic attempts to expose some of us of having and distributing files out to everyone.. I believe this is your attempt to feel important, and to make your self look good to these other groups, by telling them about others who you might know be distributing their payware. I have a Gut feeling of who you are, and honestly, I know your motives.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Dragnoxz on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:42 pm

Killer wrote:ALSO, whats with the bandwith exceded bullcrap, its annoying

I have no clue, I need to figure this out, because like many, I am getting frusterated with it.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Dragnoxz on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:41 pm

Killer wrote:for fuck sake, if i wanted to rant about your pirating, id do it like this.

FUCK YOU

Seeing as i have atleast 4 gigs worth of planes from piratebay, i don't see why i would do this.
Honestly, for once i'm telling the truth, thats not me.

lol, Ok, so you your not the FUCK, but I still blame you, just because, it is funny, and you are Killer, lol. (Kiding). I jusr cant wait to see the next post by this folk, after he sees how many have files from pirate bay.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Killer on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:16 pm

ALSO, whats with the bandwith exceded bullcrap, its annoying

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Killer on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:14 pm

for fuck sake, if i wanted to rant about your pirating, id do it like this.

FUCK YOU

Seeing as i have atleast 4 gigs worth of planes from piratebay, i don't see why i would do this.
Honestly, for once i'm telling the truth, thats not me.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  rubendal on Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:38 pm

Good point snake lol. Killer a similar situation of you impersonating osmbody else has come up before, cant recal exatly what it is, so its kinda logical for us to suspect you.

Andre the point is, go and sort this out fully and totally with the torrenting sites, and file sharing sites, before you come start screaming at us of all people. If we are a problem, we are the very least of it.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Killer on Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:30 pm

Hmm, maybe we just posted at the same time. Also, i have two computers, but they are under the same internet IP address, fool.

But no really, leave me the FUCK outa this shit

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Re: Just a notice

Post  nlairforce on Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:12 pm

hmm, how suspicious, 5 mins between the post. You thought that time enough killa? And we all know you have more then 1 computer.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Killer on Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:56 pm

Dragon, look, dont pull me into this cluster fucking BULLSHIT, i have nothing to do with the prick talking shit up there. Sooo leave me out of it Exclamation

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Re: Just a notice

Post  A Andre on Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:51 pm

It does not matter WHO gave them to you, how long ago, or how the file has been modified. If it is ORIGINALLY created and copyrighted by the company, then to redistribute it for FREE, is against the law and against the companies copyrights.

You are re-distributing PAYWARE addons, WITHOUT the original authors permission. Thus you are taking money away from a mans hard work.
You are not allowed to do so, no matter how you got it. To give it away for free without giving any credit to the original author or even asking for his or her permission is extrememly dishonorable and proves the maturity level of this online group.

On another note, I myself have no issue with anyone associated with this online group. I know none of you personaly and have no intrest in getting to. I am not this "Killer" or "Corsi" you mentioned before.
I am just a legal advisor for many other small online companies and am making you aware of the actions i am taking to ensure the companies i listed above have thier work protected from illegal re-distribution.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  MC Sics on Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:05 pm

I say have at it, the worst that will happen is the closing of any website that contains links to the pirated software (what software are you talking about anyways?) and the file hosting websites removing the files and/or deleting the account. It would be counter productive for them to sue anyone. So with that said, all and all Dragnoxz will just make a new website and a new file hosting account somewhere else. Good luck and have fun.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Dragnoxz on Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:16 am

A. Andre wrote:You are not selling, you are RE-DISTRIBUTING
Also, you are bound by a written agreement. When installing FSX, you agree to its Terms (EULA)

I believe that YOU have a personal issue with me, and that YOU should stop playing the Tatle Tale you are, ot attempting to make threats of your attempt to play the good guy when you are just looking for truoble. I agree to ether D-Load or not D-Load something, if I buy something. THat is jsut some silly excuse to have someone feel liek they are bound to something when they buy it. Again, an ilusion of someone not trusting others. I say FUCK IT, and re-distribute all we want, if we make paints, we should be able to distribute our art to others, as gifts, so everyone can enjoy them. You are playing someone who thinks they have the power to do something legal to someone by being a tatle tale, and you have nothing on anyone. You should stop trying to cause truoble, because if you are who I think you are, I can expose you to so much. However, untill I see actual evedence of your Identity, I will not mention who you most likley are. Then agian, it does not take a rocket scientist to understand who is alwayse noticing someone who might be doing a breech in some sort of contract. Usually a tattle tale is the one who should be looking at their own torrents and payware they have that they did not buy. Oh, wait, if they did buy it, then they have the money to do it, and most likley have their own scenery site, trying to sell crapy, amiture products, on sites like www.fspilotshop.com, www.simmarket.com, www.pcaviator.com, www.simulshop.com, www.flightsimstore.com, www.simnetwork.com, etc. Oops, am I getting too many Sites in which vendors could sell products on ? If I get too carried away, I might get into your mind and start telling you what you might write next. Maybe I don't have to be in a call with someone to reach out to them, at least not any more. Just the simple texts, and the energy of the anger you get when you read what I write is all I need, your reply is predictable also. Some times FUCKS, don't like to read my books, out of lazyness of moving the mouce wheel, to read, to have their minds usher in the vibrations of knowledge of what I wrote. Then they post something like, "I am not going to read this, it is too long." Keeping their minds closed, unable to learn things like honor, compassion toward others, freedom of thought, forgiveness, etc. Such poor individuas have no thought for their self, so they follow the rest of the heard, the heard that is harvested, which does what it is told, even if they are told to kill their self. Those without Concsinceness, lead a poor life, even if they are rich with money, they are poor, with only negitive thoughts, because they are truly poor. At least I am poor, and rich in creativity. IF anything, I betthese Companies like Alphasim, Captainsim, Abacus, etc, would love to have me work in their staff, for painting, designing, editing craft, and testing their products and making reviews, and having an opinion of the outcome oftheir products. After all, why the FUCK would we buy a product, without trying it first ? what if we have bad frames when using it, and we can't afford to pay so much for a craft, like that one F-16, that in my opinion, based on others who havebought it and made videos on it, that I have wtched, SUCKS. Only or the rich, who can afford good computers, never mind the poor, who might enjoy it better.

As you can see, my point is clear. Some companies might posttheir products on torrent sites for everyone to try their prodict, and if those who can afford it like it and think it is worth the money, they will buy it on their sites. If not, they I guess they did not like the product, and trashed it. It is not like anyone can get their money back after buying the product. Why not torrent things to try them out ? If they like it, they will buy it, if they can afford it. Notice that Torrent sites mostly have crappy products up. It is like that for a reason, most of the time. Try the way it flies, then buy it if you like it. That is a good plan. I give out my scenery to those who ask, and if the like it, then they will buy it, if they can afford it.

I hope you know that brienging up this topic about license agreements, contracts, or what ever it is, just pisses me off so much. This is a very sensitive topic when telling me that a Corporation is going to be told that I have been distributing their products all over. And even if I was, I Vam poor, what could they do to me, put me in jail ? I am not a Rampant Animal, and I am conscious enough to know that. So, you can call the FBI, Police, or anything you want. If they EVER show up to my land, and try to enter it to harm me, or imprison me, over some petty thing, a piece of softwear that can't possibly be worth a persons life in prison, or confinement to anything, oranything against my human rights as an individual. I will make sure that the idiots who are dumb enough to proceed in stoping me in the middle of doing what I want, being my poor self, here in the middle of no where, strugleing in a shit hole of a world where money is regarded ar worth more than any human life. THen I will make it a clear message, that I will defend my self, and my home, and my life, no matter what.

I hope you know what I mean. I am defensive, and know my shit when it comes to it. So, the next time you try to accuse me of doing something I have full right to do, even if it is diging a deep hole, making my own crops, giving my food to friends and neighbors, making small generators that run on magnit motion. Inventing Vortex Shields, or Vortex Levotation Craft. It is my buseness, my life, my ability.

If any corporation is selfish enough to sue a poor person, that poor person is the prey. But, if I am that poor person, I have defenses unlike anything you ever seen. I welcome their lawsuit, I have nothing to take, because I own nothing. Even my computer is bought by money my grandma left my mom. In a way, monetarily, this computer is my moms. Now, tey could sue me for my paintball guns, but they would not be able to sell them for 50+ together. So, what can they do ? What can someone do to someone that does not exist ? How could they do anything to me when I am independant ? What would they do if the cops around here refuze to take me in, out of fear ? What, they gona send the FBI in ? Over something I did not do ? A Company, sueing a single person would not go well in the media, they would pay more sueing someone than they would just giving them the product for free. It cost $50,000 a YEAR to house a person in Jail. It would cost thousands to take someone to court, to get lawers. They would spend so much money, and they also would have an uprising of other simmers, standing by to tell them if they are going to sue one person, they had better sue us all. Effectively causing them to bankrupt. They will lose everything.

Just think about it, $50.00 Loss, over a $1,000.00 Loss, to sue someone they believe distributed a product ? Oh, if they sue one person, they will need to sue the others they gave the file to. One person could distribute a product to me, and if I give that product to over a thousand others, what happiens. What happiens when I am an 8th person this product was sent to ? The Torrent site is the cause of the distribution, those who go to the torrent site to upload the product for everyone to have for free are not traceable,, so, that istheir ded-end. their answer is the torrent site, which if hacked from lest say, the USA, the act of the hacking happiened in the USA, which then the person hosting the torrent site who was hacked has legal ability to sue the US Based group, who hacked them. This means the site who hacked the torrent site can't use any of the IP's that used the torrent site to get the product being distributed cant use that evedence of those who got the product. BEcause if they do, then it is they who did an illegal action, and can be sued by the torrent site, because the laws apply in the USA, and not the place the torrent sites operate. THe act of hacking happiened in the USA, against a site elsewhere. Now, if someone hacked the site where the trrent site is based, that torrent site is done for, and still hte evedence is gone, because it is not an international issue.

Ether way, even if I did torrent a file, then distributed it to everyone on a file hosting site, I can't possibly be sued, because the torrent site is where I wouldhave recieved the file and crack, if any. So, now you know there is no legal grounds about this, nor is there on the video I posted. So what if I posted "You Tube Can go F**K a Cactus with WDM." They can, becase I posted a video with sound I got from You Tube. But, wait, it posted great on the other site. And I did make that video, it is not a comircial, TV Show, nor is it porn or hazardus to anyone. Even mentilly dmaging videos should be allowed, because no one is forcing anyone to watch any of the videos on You Tube. I would like to see You tube allow ALL Videos, of all leinght, of all movies and shows, making it free to watch anything we want, even if it is a N-Korean, or Iraqi Show. Oh, and it would be nice to include English S-Titles in Eglish speaking places, and same goes with Spanish speaking and Russian speaking. Just translate everything to everyone, properly so that everyone can enjoy the world. Same goes with Internet, no more censering. I hope you enjoyed the book.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  rubendal on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:22 pm

One more thing I might mention is: Nowhere that I am aware of, in my EULA does it say anything about resellign/redistributing any third party software, or in other words, add on aircraft. maybe you could show me where it does.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  rubendal on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:11 pm

Dragon in his element! lol. However I agree fully with Dragnoxz in that every one of these payware aircraft, (a lot of our aircraft arent payware) were given to us from friends friends friends etc al lalong the way, and as dragon has pointed out, have been modified here and there. Again, as above, we are not selling these aircraft again, and whoever got htem orgianlly was from a torrent site. Like dragon is saying, ones like thepiratebay one of the most common isn't under some of the US copyrights. I'm also curious as to who you are. It sounds like you could be killer, why not identify yourself.

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Re: Just a notice

Post  A. Andre on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:10 pm

You are not selling, you are RE-DISTRIBUTING
Also, you are bound by a written agreement. When installing FSX, you agree to its Terms (EULA)

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Re: Just a notice

Post  Dragnoxz on Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:55 pm

A. Andre wrote:Since i am concerned for those FSX addon development companies who are constantly having thier hard work stolen from them and illegaly downloaded, i will just let you aware that i will be reporting any websites, FTP servers, and other media of interest (youtube) that contain STOLEN content created under and within the guidlines of the Microsoft FSX EULA.
I personally have obtained links that direct users to a file hosting website (website), with a user under the username Skydragon, AKA Dragnoxz who is directly associated with this online group.
The user has uploaded a mass library of ILLEGALY downloaded microsoft payware content that is protected under SEVERAL U.S. copyrights.
This is in direct violation with several U.S. and international federal laws and can possibly be delt with seriously.

Each item able for download is protected under a SINGLE liscense and is not permitted to be RE-DISTRIBUTED even if originaly purchased legally.

I will be letting many companies aware of the illegal activity and provide them with the proof to take legal action if needed.
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I will be reporting each Youtube video that contains the illegaly downloaded content. I'm sure this wont sit with them well

You are aware that nothing is being sold on any sites, right ? And if so, then you do understand it is not being sold by us, nor is it sold my myself. If you can give details on anything that might not be allowed to be posted on links, tell me. However, one can not trace the potentially payware items from me along, if I recieved payware items form someone who recieved something from them, then what could they possibly do to me ? What if I recieved a file that was modified, painted, CFG edited and changed, etc, multiple times before I recieved it; then if I made my own ajustments of that, after recieving a re-editied file, what can anyone do ?

I am not selling anything, and these craft have been on torrent sites for years. If anyone should be getting heat, go contact the torrent sites, not us, or anyone else who uploaded them. It is not my fault that someoen created a torrent site, uploaded a payware product and has everyone get it off torrent sites, then distributs it to everyone they know, causing a chain reaction of continues distributions.

Also note that some rely on torrent sites to get their files. And some torrent sites are bases in nations that are not under coppyright laws. Like "The Netherlands," where "The Pirate Bay" is based. I am sure these folkz who created products could attempt to hack those torrent sites, but, remember those torrent sites might know how to prevent such hacks.

Again, those who make products on line should make products that are encrypted, to where these torrent sites are not able to disribute them. If someone gets a file from a torrent site, it is not them who are distributing the original file, it is the torrent sites. And if these major companies have an issue with someone repainting their craft for personal use, they can reach me on Skype, and talk to me. But, I am on my own land, at my own house, and can do what I want, when I want, and if some corporation wants to attempt to do something, they can come here and confront me. But, I wanr, they had better understand that any threatinging person to come to this town, who sets one agresive foot on my land, I will not hesitate to remove their foot form existance.

I can assure that I also have a private busieness that creates "Scenery" and make 20+ every 2-to-4 months. But, at least I am not selfish to where I will go after someone for torrenting my products. these Corporations had better understand that their products are being posted on torrent sites as soon as they are out. What are they going to do, arrest everyone on this planet that torrents things ?

And who are you to come here trying to accuse me of something. I will do what I want, I am not bound by any written agreement, I did not sign anything, and I recieved files form friends who recieved files from their friends, and their friends friends. No one can possibly trace who was the original person, or persons who bought and handed out files to everyone.

If these companies believe I bought and sold, or bought and handed out their products, then have them contact me. And if they are worried about losing money, then tell them to contact the torrent sites. Because EVERYONE goes to these torrent sites, I just get files form friends or simviation. If I feel that I want something, and have the money, I would buy their products.

If these sites persue someone who is poor, I reserve the right to all who are poor to defend theirslef against the tyrant corproate congomerate, selfist, only to maximise profits, pscycopathic, rich folkz who care nothing of others. They can afford to give things away. It is much cheaper than paying a lawyer thousands of dollare to sue someone, rather than to just lose 50.00 worth of a product. Because if they sue anyone other than another major corporation, then they will have to sue the rest of those who torrent. I am sure they will all stand by and arm up to make these selfish corporate groups that once their prouct is on th emarket, the ycan be sure that someone from another nation is going to post it on some torrent site, and there is nothing they can do.

Just to clarify everything. I have not posted a product on a torrent site, nor have I ever had a file with a license agreement. I recieved files direct from others who recieved their products form others, who are not traceable by me, or my friends. I do sell products I buy. If I see a product I can afford, and like, I will buy it, to give the makers respect to their hard work. I also understand that it is wrong to take someones work and turn around and sell it. I follow good morals, which many do not. If someone gives me something, I will accept their gift.

Now, I see NOTHING Illegal about the video I posted. I created that video, and the craft used were given to me, and there were no legal agreements by the person I recieved it from. In fact, it was from an FSX-FLeet member, who wanted to dog fight me using it. I painted it the way I wanted, because I can, because it is not illegal to make repaints. And even if I bought a payware craft, then made another paint, to add on to the original paint schemes, it should not be illegal, and if I distributed these paints, it also should not be illegal. Now, If I hand out a payware craft that I might have bought, then yes, I would be doing something illegal. But, I did not do that.

Now, to understand who you might be. Who are you, and why are you confronting me, when there are so many others who actually are doing illegal things ? Why are you publically confronting me ? Why are you accusing me of doing something illegal ?

I have a good idea of who you are, only a few would publically confront me on this. Killer, Corsi, or some other random FUCK. And making it all look official, really is anoying. I suggest you leave me, and everyone else I know alone, before you make a wrong move. Why not just go after someoen who made a repaint of Alphasim B-1B, who is selling the whole craft model with this amiture repaint to everyone, rather than mess around with someone who is poor, who is minding their own buseness, and who is in no way a threat to any companies (unless the companies provoke or threatene them). Know that any other attempt to counte any of my claims will result in another book. It is just better to let go, and move along with your life, than to hold a grudge. Playing tattltale is not going to make brouny points to these sites. They will just get anoyd.

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Just a notice

Post  A. Andre on Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:38 pm

Since i am concerned for those FSX addon development companies who are constantly having thier hard work stolen from them and illegaly downloaded, i will just let you aware that i will be reporting any websites, FTP servers, and other media of interest (youtube) that contain STOLEN content created under and within the guidlines of the Microsoft FSX EULA.
I personally have obtained links that direct users to a file hosting website (website), with a user under the username Skydragon, AKA Dragnoxz who is directly associated with this online group.
The user has uploaded a mass library of ILLEGALY downloaded microsoft payware content that is protected under SEVERAL U.S. copyrights.
This is in direct violation with several U.S. and international federal laws and can possibly be delt with seriously.

Each item able for download is protected under a SINGLE liscense and is not permitted to be RE-DISTRIBUTED even if originaly purchased legally.

I will be letting many companies aware of the illegal activity and provide them with the proof to take legal action if needed.
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I will be reporting each Youtube video that contains the illegaly downloaded content. I'm sure this wont sit with them well

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