IDN-Air Defense Force

IDN Air Defense Force is planning official activation on 03-01-12. We will then begin conducting training operations from Ford Island NALF in Hawaii, and the Mojave Air and Space Port in California. Currently we operate three MiG-29Ks and three Su-33 Flanker-Ds, one KC-10, and 2 C-130s. We have no other fixed wing aircraft in our inventory. We also operate 3 AH-1W Cobra attack helicopters and 4 CH-46 Sea Knights. IDN pilots and crews will being training and will under no circumstances participate in any life firing exercises or combat actions unless attacked by an aggressive force, in which we will only act in self defense. The IDN is not interested in inflicting any collateral damage on the Hawaiian or Californian populous. OCU is interested in this Pacific region not only for its subsurface minerals, but also because it is protected by GPEO forces. OCU feels this is a safe and productive area to begin development. IDN personnel will not participate in any combat actions along side or against GPEO forces. The IDN will also refrain from participating in tactical training exercises along side or against GPEO forces. The IDN's presence in the Pacific or any other part of the world is strictly to provide necessary protection for the Industrial Oceanic Colonies and associated OCU facilities from confirmed terrorist threats and hostile factions. The IDN will soon begin placing bids with VR-World governments and militaries with hopes of acquiring more aircraft in the near future.

CCO. Thomas Takeda
IDN-Air Defense Force
Chief Commanding Officer

I would advise you NOT to take off with military craft in the Pacific. Hawaii is purely GPEO Military, andi f ANY Foregin military craft are spotted in GPEO Regions, they will need to be de-ported. We will allow withdraw access back to the US coast, and escort any foregin ship with several ships.

This is a WARNING. All military forces that are not GPEO, Uatian or UCFS should disarm all weapons, and leave immediately. GPEO did NOT allow military access into the Pacific. No deals have been made. I suggest you remember NOT to make false deals, knowing we have not yet accepted any deals. We will NOT be so generous next time. This has added a mark to the GPEO/OSC Relations. This does not improve relations.

You told IDN-Akuma that you did not mind having non military forces in the area. Further more, you contacted us with a list of many reasons why OCU should consider establishing its facilities in GPEO territory. But it seems fear has motivated you to forget all that. Fear of what? We only possess six fighter aircraft. That's it. And as I've stated before to you and your staff, as well as to the entire world, we will not under any circumstances use these aircraft in any military operations. The only reason we have these aircraft is because of threats like the ANM who could strike any time, anywhere. Should they attack while we are doing research in the area, we must have a means of defending ourselves. We cannot afford to wait for your intervention. AST has sessions almost nightly and we keep them open to the public. I'm not aware of a single session hosted by GPEO this year (not saying that you haven't). However, GPEO members have flown in AST sessions without issue or conflict on more than one occasion. I think it is obvious that OCU personnel are not interested in military operations. According to the Map, GPEO, OCU, are the only politically active groups with the exception of the SIN (who have been totally silent), and the ANM who we all can confirm are rebuilding their forces and actively training. That means its just you, us, and the badguys. I don't think you can afford to speak aggressively to the ONLY active ally you have. But if you wish to force us out of your territory over six antiquated defense fighters made from soviet crap then this is your choice. At one point, we possessed Su-35s, F-22s, and T-50s. We abandoned our most advanced fighter aircraft as well as deactivated five fighter groups in an effort to establish peace between OCU and GPEO. But this obviously isn't enough. You seem hell bent on keeping the Pacific an GPEO military restricted zone. OCU is a commercial enterprise, not a military. However, the majority of geographic land mass of the Map is owned by factions that have since disbanded or become inactive. If OCU employees present some type of threat to GPEO, then we will simply move into a territory that is no longer owned and work under free government sanctions. Also, we can see if VM's like FSXF are interested in the technology we are developing and work out arrangements with them. At first, you seemed very happy to have our facilities in your territories and even offered to proved military protection for our facilities. Now you react to us like we are a group of pirates or terrorists. THIS has put a bad mark on OCU/GPEO relations. You invited us into the area, but you don't want us there if we bring a handful of planes to protect ourselves from the ANM? If the GPEO is the only truly active group in the VR World, who do you think they're going to attack? And if we are in your territory, who do you think is going to get caught in the middle? We're willing to take much risk for you, but you are not willing to allow us means of defending ourselves from an international threat. Furthermore, you obviously forgot about the messages you sent Akuma showing how positive you were toward having us in your regions, and all the ideas you proposed. Perhaps because we have yet to promise you the military technology you expect in return? OCU will discuss this situation and get back to you.

AST test pilots Sharkey and Gasser will be performing the first test flight of the AeroShark Tech. TX-31 Mongoose B Enhanced Maneuverability Trainer today over ADIZ code named "The Gate". AST Sharkey requests IDN escort from ASTF-01 to "The Gate", and that IDN aircraft loiter until the test flight is concluded. In effort to ensure security, AST will post the flight plan on IDN-ADF Command's network site and await approval.

Roger that AST. I've reviewed your flight plan and have assigned two IDN Su-33 Flaker-Ds to provide escort over the airspace. IDN-Kenshi and IDN-Yuki will provide you escort into the airspace, and provide a BARCAP. Futhermore, two F-15Cs of a neutral VM will meet up with our Flankers and provide joint protection. Upon conclusion of your test flight, IDN Flankers and allied F-15s will separate. The Flankers will continue to provide you with escort back to ASTF-01. If necessary, you can request that a KC-10 meet you over the airspace to extend your flight time. The Flankers have the longest service range and loiter time of any active fighter in the world. We've also extended this offer to the friendly F-15s. Our taker crew has stated they are available and will be prepared to fly out with you, or scramble should you need any help. Good luck with your flight.

IDN-ADF Command wrote:You told IDN-Akuma that you did not mind having non military forces in the area. Further more, you contacted us with a list of many reasons why OCU should consider establishing its facilities in GPEO territory. But it seems fear has motivated you to forget all that. Fear of what? We only possess six fighter aircraft. That's it. And as I've stated before to you and your staff, as well as to the entire world, we will not under any circumstances use these aircraft in any military operations. The only reason we have these aircraft is because of threats like the ANM who could strike any time, anywhere. Should they attack while we are doing research in the area, we must have a means of defending ourselves. We cannot afford to wait for your intervention. AST has sessions almost nightly and we keep them open to the public. I'm not aware of a single session hosted by GPEO this year (not saying that you haven't). However, GPEO members have flown in AST sessions without issue or conflict on more than one occasion. I think it is obvious that OCU personnel are not interested in military operations. According to the Map, GPEO, OCU, are the only politically active groups with the exception of the SIN (who have been totally silent), and the ANM who we all can confirm are rebuilding their forces and actively training. That means its just you, us, and the badguys. I don't think you can afford to speak aggressively to the ONLY active ally you have. But if you wish to force us out of your territory over six antiquated defense fighters made from soviet crap then this is your choice. At one point, we possessed Su-35s, F-22s, and T-50s. We abandoned our most advanced fighter aircraft as well as deactivated five fighter groups in an effort to establish peace between OCU and GPEO. But this obviously isn't enough. You seem hell bent on keeping the Pacific an GPEO military restricted zone. OCU is a commercial enterprise, not a military. However, the majority of geographic land mass of the Map is owned by factions that have since disbanded or become inactive. If OCU employees present some type of threat to GPEO, then we will simply move into a territory that is no longer owned and work under free government sanctions. Also, we can see if VM's like FSXF are interested in the technology we are developing and work out arrangements with them. At first, you seemed very happy to have our facilities in your territories and even offered to proved military protection for our facilities. Now you react to us like we are a group of pirates or terrorists. THIS has put a bad mark on OCU/GPEO relations. You invited us into the area, but you don't want us there if we bring a handful of planes to protect ourselves from the ANM? If the GPEO is the only truly active group in the VR World, who do you think they're going to attack? And if we are in your territory, who do you think is going to get caught in the middle? We're willing to take much risk for you, but you are not willing to allow us means of defending ourselves from an international threat. Furthermore, you obviously forgot about the messages you sent Akuma showing how positive you were toward having us in your regions, and all the ideas you proposed. Perhaps because we have yet to promise you the military technology you expect in return? OCU will discuss this situation and get back to you.

First, we are NOT expelling you from the area promised, we are stating that no military aircraft is to be used in the area by the OCU. your defense will be accommodated by the GPEO. Second of all to my knowledge we have had only ONE confirmed flight along side the OCU. Now furthermore I try to set up a GPEO session whenever I can ( If you can recollect the attempted session that was aborted several weeks ago), there have been sessions hosted by other individuals for the GPEO as well. I hope this was helpfull in some way.

-Razgriez

If you are not aware of active and former GPEO personnel participating in IDN sessions then that is on you. The IDN possess six, old soviet aircraft. If this is too much for you to handle then we will gladly move from the territory and do business elsewhere. Regardless of what intel may or may not suggest, there are several potential threats building up in the VR World and OCU operatives will not be caught with our pants down. The IDN exists for one single purpose, to protect OCU/AST personnel and facilities from hostile forces. We do not believe the GPEO has the numerical active personnel to provide OCU with the necessary protection in the face of hostile action. Especially if FSXF decides to attack. It seems we are at a stand still. I will discuss this with OCU Executive Authority.

IDN-Kenshi is airborne over Mojave now, conducting EFM training.

I must apoligies for my over reaction. However, no agreement has been made officially, nor was anything signed. I must inform you that when we do make deals, we prefer to have documents signed before proceeding on any actions. I would be glad if AST was jointly operating with GPEO, but since the declined offer, only GPEO Military Forces are to remain the primary defense of Hawaii.

ANM can't get to Hawaii, unless they built makeshift carriers, which might take months, if they use container ships as flat tops. Other then that, they may be stuck in parts of Asia till they can manage to capture a port. Just saying.

We can offer Iwo Jima on loan for a while, for testing and all. GPEO presence can even be removed entirely from the island if OCU prefers it. It is close to Japan, and is basically a waypoint for GPEO P-3's patroling the Pacific. If you accept this, I am willing to sign a document of temporary rights to Iwo Jima, and offer construction supplies for whatever OCU might need. It should be out of range of ANM, and is secluded form most trafic. Only GPEO P-3's fly over there, and the occasional submarines float near by.

Ford Island used as a research facility rather then a test facility could work, but we can handle the Hawaiian Defense in the region. We can even send a Carrier Task force over to assist if needed. One was on its way by to pick up some fighters anyway.

This is an offer. Nothing is officially signed or granted yet. I advise OCU to hold off on Pacific operations till a document can be signed by both parties and presented through the ITTN forum. However, I do understand if OCU would prefer their own fighters to defend their projects. We might be willing to make an official agreement allowing OCU to defend their own company within the Pacific. It should be posted in the ITTN and signed on ITTN in order for it to be legit for everyone to aknowledge. This must be mainstream, so neither side can falsely claim something.

This is agreeable. OCU will contact you do discuss the terms of any contracts.

It has been brought to my attention that there is a possible situation regard AST's ability to produce aerospace technology within the confines of the Mojave Air and Space Port. What is the issue?

I suggest that we discuss this on our own network AST.

AST staff, myself, and the BIG Boss are about to hold a conference. Are you registered in the ITTN?

Not yet. Is it really necessary that we are? I figured OCU would handle relations for us. Besides, the ITTN is virtually the same shit this place is. Only the ITTN's background doesn't suck ass like this one. Skype me and just tell me what's being relayed.

Understood, I'll skype you, but you should open an ITTN account so we can all communicate on the same network together.

We have out own network for that. Three of them, which is why I'd like to know why we're here on this gay ass site.

Lock it up. We're here because of diplomacy. We're not a military dude, we're a corporation and do business regardless of personal appreciation for potential clients.

Diplomacy...ppsshhh. I saw a technology race is at hand. We have nothing to gain by holding ourselves back for the benefit of another group who thinks we're a terrorist cell. These guys don't even recognize a friend when they have one. They're afraid of us even after we pretty much demilitarized. They don't trust us and frankly, I don't trust them. And I could give two shits if they know it because we all know its true. I say we pack our bags and go someplace that actually wants to grow. We don't need GPEO, there's plenty of business out there.

I said lock that shit up! Who OCU forms partnerships with is not your decision or mine. Its up to the Executives, and our job is to accomplish whatever tasks they assign us. You're an engineer so you need to put your mind on that. Not on politics. Now knock this shit off and get on skype or the AST network and I'll catch you up on the discussion you missed while you were bitching.

Okay, so what's going on with this site?

Pack your bags. You're abandoning the account and starting a business profile on ITTN, as order of OCU Execs. Military relations are not your concern.

That's good. I didn't like it here anyway. This place is full of assholes. Now we get to interact with even more assholes on ITTN.

Come on Shark. I must correct you. I am the only asshole here. You just hate us because you think we are Communist. Well, I can give you a reason to hate, or I can turn to the dark side, and become full blown Capitalist, money systems and corpritocracy can flood like a Tsunami.

I don't think you comprehend what I have been trying to say. Do you truely think a world without a good ballance of diverse factions, corporations and government systems and styles will have much excitement ? This is called thinking out side of the box. Imagine if the world had only one government and system to follow, and everyone was the same, without creativity and a diverse way of thinking and cultures. It would be dull, boreing, nothing but mundaine work, no conflicts or good ideas. Leaders would be pointless, and the world would only be controleld by one. We can just hand over all authority to OCU or IDN or ANM, to make a single world government, and submit to their rule, but there will always be a ballance. Revolts and Rebels will cause uprising jsut because of one world government. No matter what, there will always be 2 or more viewpoints and sides. In the begining, it was FSXF, then GPEO caused a global uprising where it could, (hence "The Revolutionary War").

I mean no disrespect, and have no grudge against you or anyone else. I understand it might be dificult to comprehend things that others know well. The idea of the creator helping new groups behind the scenes (like IDF/OCU) to thrive, would actually help all benifit. I still see lots of misunderstanding by Aurora and OCU toward one another both not comprehending the full page of eachothers ideas and ways of operating. We all must be on the same page in order to have fun, regardless of political allignment. J-Harper might know this better than the rest of AST, but not only AST, but GPEO and other factions should understand and be on the same page. I understand Ghost once telling me we need the VR-World to be under some sort of control, and if I was in the same mindset I am in now, I would have comprehended what he was trying to say. The problem was, they started their own world in their own image, and did not know how to properly run a VR-World.

If you allow me, I will be willing to guide a test faction (random name and cause of your choice) to form in some random place in the VR-world. Maybe a part of the US, or Europe, and work closely with someone to help develop it into a formitible faciton.

ANM would be perfect to do this, because of the aircraft they prefer to use, but their leader is unknown now, and their lack of comprehention of things is just a waste. They seem to like the Rafale, and France is the only place that uses those craft, which would make it logical that they form an uprising against the GPEO in France, eventually owning France as their own Independant land. All a faction realy needs is a small chunk of land to operaqte out of. Several conflicts and exciting things can happen in a small region, if oen uses their imagination. If ACC retured, they could easilly cause an uprising in the Carolinas and eventually win their Independance over the Carolinas, maybe merging both N and S Carolina into one small regional faction. VFF or Reverends group could do the same from Northern Florida to Louisiana. FSX-CG can do the same from Norfolk to Main. The US can be a breeding ground for many factions, and be the new Europian-like states. the regions and borders could change many times, making a continuslly changing political world and time line. Factions that like Soviet craft could form uprisings in a small area of Russia, or China. The creativity of it all is the limit.

Check this out. I see that Hawaii, if ADF wanted, could cause a small ground uprising near a civilian airport, capture airliners, land at military bases, have a fight on the ground and secure parts of Hawaii, making a Hawaiian conflict or uprising. Hawaii is a fuckin awsum place to fly, and we who operate in a virtual world can make virtual history.

Comprehending: Even I have a hard time of comprehending things about the differences of a faction pilot (member) and a political advizor (staff) of a faction. I tend to talk to members about the VR-World political status, and they end up growing their own opinions and forming their own facitons, then VR-Worlds, as was with Ghost and his friend. I admit, my political and religious views are not popular, but that can be used in a creative way. We all have our views, if we don't like the views of another, let these different views be argued in battle. Look at the Crusades, Muslum VS Christian.

If you are up for starting a random uprising using a shell faction somewhere, let me know through the PM. Let us put whatever negativity behind us, and allow me to guide you through the processes of forming a factino the right way, if you know what I mean. It will start off slow (site, area to form, etc). Craft may be non military for a short while, till military craft can be aquired from sources, but it will be fun.

You don't get it. OCU/ADF/IDN does not want to cause an uprising. We don't want to take over any territories and we don't want to be a political authority. AST just wants to put some of the stuff they make into the virtual world because that's what they enjoy doing. Conceptual graphic design and software development. In fact, the only reason why my division even exists is because assholes like you think everybody is out to get them. Every time we express a difference in opinion with you we are threatened with possible FPEO attacks. And if we advertise that we're designing something it suddenly becomes a fucking technology race with you and that moron Ghost, even though neither one of your really makes shit. Then right after that, we get some drawn out idea of yours about some fake war, that will no doubt all play our in your favor. Do you realize how corny that shit is? You want to control everything! Even if it's fake!! We are not out to get you dude. We're not out to get anybody. You say you want people to have fun but how the fuck can we do that with you always accusing us of shit we haven't done, then threatening to attack us? Save your fake war schemes. We're tired of this shit. We're not the fucking ANM, we're not the fucking SIN, and we're not out to take anything from you. Asking permission to use your facilities was an attempt to show you "we come in peace". This was you could keep an eye on us maybe have a little comfort once you realize we're not up to anything that will hurt you or any other VM. We just want to make high tech shit and improve the virtual experience for everybody. But no, you've got to know everything and put a mask on everybody to feed your paranoia. And FYI, the reason you haven't heard us bring up the ANM lately is because we found out they are NOT the same guys, and they do not have any plans what so ever of participating as a VM in the VR World. The former ANM stood for Axis of the New Millennium. This ANM means Asian National Military. And they fly the Rafale to celebrate the fact that the Indian Air Force has ordered over 130 of them. This means France is NOT the only country who operates Rafales anymore. So much for UIA right!? Anyway, you chased us off even though we were trying to be your friends...AGAIN. This was the fourth and last time we waste efforts on trying to establish good relations with the GPEO. From now on, steer clear of us. Stay out of our business and stay away from our facilities. We've moved out of your territories so if we ever cross paths with you it's because you pursued us. In that case we will shoot every one of you stupid bastards down. And you KNOW for a fact we can do it because we've already proven we can. EASILY. That is my final warning to you. OCU doesn't fear the GPEO or any of your fake ass allies. Half the guys you think you can depend on want us to make fighters for them. You better check yourself buddy.

Do I sense tention ? I have only came up with an idea. I feel that it is YOU who are putting words in my mouth, not me putting words in your mouth. You can shoot Untrained pilots down, not Trained. You have only practiced with one, student pilot whom has yet to fly with an instructor. I can't help that the instructors are not able to get on 24/7. You have your new puppet now, but he cant speak to get a kill. You are the one bluffing about everything, you don't know much about the UIA, or Intel. Come and infiltrate GPEO with your best Intel Staff, and try to predict our next moves. I have already predicted your moves, because you are predictable. You have nothing but stolen models of aircraft that you have painted and edited. Make a flying DMC Delorean or a full blown rail way system in FSX to impress me. Why not make a container ship into a flat top, for the new factions to use ? You know the US carriers are all used up by factions, and only way they can get a carrier is if they use a modified container ship, by removing the rear bridge, keeping the front bridge for piloting, building the deck above the front bridge and adding cranes or single craft elevators, with a small tower to the left with a primitive radar. Very simple, 2 moth long or longer modification, easy. You just lack the imagination we have. UIA Prediction - AST will disappear one day, once their fonder's lies are exposed.

As for France not being the only one using Rafale fighters. Read the order again. Not till a few years from now will they be delivered. They have not been delivered to India. I even told you this. UIA is beyond your ability to comprehend Intel, we give you Intel we want you to have.

Stolen? Like how, creeped in through the window and downloaded it from the person's hardrive? If you knew anything about drafting you'd know that you can't just steal a model. You have to have access to the person's computer and furthermore, have the same program they used to make it on your computer as well or you won't even be able to open the file. Jackass. Either that or try to hack somebody's computer across the internet. And nobody in their right mind is going to risk going to federal prison over a 3D computer model. Asshole. We make all our shit with GMax, FSDS3.5, and FS Panel Studio. That pretty much explains why we have shit nobody else does. Anybody that looks at the AST site can see the drafts of the aircraft while they were still being made. A full blown rail system? We've done that. It's actually part of the full blown city we made too, which we also have meshes and drafts of. We've even made a full blown space station. Again, with meshes and drafts. Our current F-22 project is going to be publicized one day at at time. This way everybody can see the daily progress. How do you consider that stolen? Ohhhh...that's right. I forgot. You're an idiot. Either that or are you talking about the VR World? Its kind of hard to tell as you go from one reality to the other without warning or clarification. And we've flown with more than just Raz. You guys don't believe in communication do you? As far as lacking imagination, we actually put ours to use and make software with it. If we say we have boats and missiles, it's because we actually made them. All that stuff you have like those ships, and subs, and super bad ass network exists only in your imagination. Yeah, you guys have imagination alright. And that's pretty much where it ends. We make shit into reality. Well, virtual reality. And I like how you keep making excuses for your poor performance. "They weren't even trained! Our instructors aren't available!" Yeah, but you can find 50 people to ambush us in less than half an hour. Yeah...bullshit. Me thinks your instructors aren't available because they're in your imagination fixing all your bad ass equipment. And as far as that ambush goes, funny how most of those guys didn't even know they promised to help you. Guess we'll find out for certain today won't we. I like how you and Ghost Balls bitch and gripe about timelines and bases being out of range. But you're just going to manifest a whole ton of guys who aren't even politically active, and even if the were, aren't even on the same continent. Yeah, because that's not being a total hypocrite at all! You're so pathetic.

When I get a working computer of my own, you will see. That is all I can say. It pains me that I am so limited internet wise. Personally, I don't believe you, all you have is consept art, and no product. Make a video of your craft shooting other craft down, the city and railway, etc. Provide proof, because all you have provided is you and lies. Wait till the summer, when college is closed. I WILL make it to the sky. MC is right, all there is now is arguements, name calling (on your end), and drama that solves nothing. At least I try to fix things, but when things begin to look as if they might work out, you fuck it up and ruin it all by changing your story and actions. If I had the time you have on here, you would be gone. My prediction stands, you will go into hiding or leave when the UIA project is complete.

It won't be concept art if you boys show up to our session now will it? Besides, these drafts are there to keep with the timeline. These are things ONCE AGAIN that have not yet been built. Things waiting to be built by order of the customer. Things that we can't just build over night as said by you and Ghost Balls. So yeah, we only show drafts in effort to support the timeline. "These things take time to build" remember? But if you'd like to shit the fun way we can just use all our shit now.

IDN-SOD-1 wrote:It won't be concept art if you boys show up to our session now will it?.

I totally agree with you, 100%, lol.

Yes, you are right, they do take time to build. I respect you for that. At elast you are using logic.

lol@IDN.

Soon you shall figure it out. as in..... there are people in this world who just cannot be dealt with.