Board of Directors/Staff Officers

well, i know that and sometimes it does work. But usually the changes i make are pretty small and then i restart fsx anyway to see if it changes as i want it to. Good thing that my fsx loads up quite quick but nonetheless its a time consuming business.

OK Snake I'm sorry if I've wronged you in any way. I didn't realy take into account any real life problems lol sorry. I have one tip that you may not know about. When your editing a cgf, Keep fsx open. Once youve done your edit, save the CFG file, go into flight sim, change your aiplane, to the one you are editing. That will relooad the cfg file with the new mods. So if you need to edit again, go back to the cfg, edit, save, switch your aircraft again to hte same craft, and once again the cfg will be realoaded, so you don't have to quit fsx each time. You probably know that, but if you don't its a really handy tip that i've used to test out my own mods without waiting centurys evyer time for fsx to load lol

$nake wrote:i do have some frustrations at home but that is of no relevance for my reaction. I always was going to let you test the models once i've finished them and lately i'm very tired. No offence meant. I just am very busy with school and its a pain in the ass to get the F-22 as i want it.

Yo, no rush, your Education is more important. I am sure we all can understand frustration when you have to edit a cfg then go into FSX over and over all the time, to find out you need to change something again and again. On toip of frustreations at home, only to come on and find that cfg frustration.

Now, can we gt back to the topic at hand, and disregard the nonsense drama that seems to plauge not only us, but the rest of the VR-World's. Personaly the F-22 topic should be in athe Aircraft Section, on the F-22 topic, where this forum will become more organized, where a new person wont be confuzed. We have Fighters, we are top of the line now, but we need to focuse on this topic here, and the F-22 on the F-22 topic in the Aircraft section, where we can continue our communications ability as a group, where ideas and programs can be discussed correctly, in their proper areas. Even though we speak the same language, a communications berrier forms when we change the topics from their original meaning.

i do have some frustrations at home but that is of no relevance for my reaction. I always was going to let you test the models once i've finished them and lately i'm very tired. No offence meant. I just am very busy with school and its a pain in the ass to get the F-22 as i want it.

rubendal wrote:I agree dragon, and yes this is off topic, however...

$nake. All I said was that I was not going to fly the new f-22 if I didnt find it realistic. I asked you for the plane, after you had finished coding it, so that I could test fly it. Is there anything wrong with asking for a plane to fly? Exept for the first f16, I asked you for each of the aircraft from GPEO, so likeiwse, I asked for the f-22 once youve finished it. Now tell me, is there anything 'smartass' about that? I see nothing wrong with simply askign for a jet.

Fuck you Ruben ! (Kiding - Being Sarcastic)

Personally, I think $nake is having other issues at home, and don't realize we are not there to understand whathe is going through. However, I don't think it is just, to lash out for petty reasons, or for assuming that someone is trying to be disrespectful when their emotions are strong. Taking out agression on someone who has nothing to do with something is wrong, and un just. I see nothing that you did to try or make an effort to anger someone. Remember, we are all here, and some times are not al lhere, or are busy. We all can't just drop what we are doing or had planned in order to pay someone undevided attention. Some of us have school, work, or live in different time zones. IF someone in Europe and someone in California both compremize their times, the one in Euroope staying up later and the one in California waking up earlier would help for making a better time of flying together. But, like myself, I try to fly with everyone, but when I do I can't organize or make accurate maps fast enought, or update and wrote about events occuring all over. Me flying is hard for me to do, so I try to recruit when I can so that everyone can make new friends. But recently some of our new recruits might have all out up'd and left because no one paid attention to them. We have no reason to worry aobut spies if there are any. So, new recruits will be coming in no matter what, just accept them and welcome them into our Freedom Loving Family of Pioneers. Hell, direct them to the Recruitment Area if you want.

I agree dragon, and yes this is off topic, however...

$nake. All I said was that I was not going to fly the new f-22 if I didnt find it realistic. I asked you for the plane, after you had finished coding it, so that I could test fly it. Is there anything wrong with asking for a plane to fly? Exept for the first f16, I asked you for each of the aircraft from GPEO, so likeiwse, I asked for the f-22 once youve finished it. Now tell me, is there anything 'smartass' about that? I see nothing wrong with simply askign for a jet.

the point is that you are being a smartass. You are tellin stuff that everyone already knows and you expect me to react normally on it???

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rubendal wrote:Lol. But seriously? what did I do?

Duno, I guess it was your hair, he just don't like Afros, oh wait that is bobbyhill. Ok, I got it: I don't know. I thought you guys were friends ? However, $nake did just all out punch you in the face, why don't you punch back ? This is a Free Speech forum. Just remember to try and post the brutal rotten comments in the "Hatful and Disrespectful Comments" area, because that is liek the best place to post it. you will get allot of attention there. It is the best place tovent and speak your mins, with no limits. Hell, talk shit about me, I encourage it. I become amused and cheerful. However, I caution you, if you don't want a nasty retaliation of a reply to you, try not to be overly brutal toward me, lol. I invent the destruction of sanity, by using my ability of controled insanity, lol.

You know, I was wondering why this topic becaome a fist fihgt ? We are supposed to be talking about a Staff thing ?

Lol. But seriously? what did I do?

*ref skates over* hey now, let's break it up.

dude wtfs your problem snake. What did I do to you?

nlairforce wrote:Fuck u ruben

whatever happened to the hateful and disrespectful comment thread?

Fuck u ruben

wait until I told you to give it to me.

No, Really. What else did you think i was going to do!?

OK snake just let me know when youve finished it and Ill try it out.

nlairforce wrote:yo ruben and everyone. The work on the F-22 is going well. I have developped a way to get super manueverability without pulling too many g's. It works with thrust vectoring and it does not involve the use of trim. Just more stick input. Regular movement is with about half stick input, and to use TV, use more then half input. It needs to get used to, but it works awesome.

Maybe it will not be easy to get use to, but it might be good for those who know how to use it correctly. Say, did you read the last post here, about the system structure thing ?

yo ruben and everyone. The work on the F-22 is going well. I have developped a way to get super manueverability without pulling too many g's. It works with thrust vectoring and it does not involve the use of trim. Just more stick input. Regular movement is with about half stick input, and to use TV, use more then half input. It needs to get used to, but it works awesome.

I said nothing of the sort, don't jump to conclusions.. ALl i'm saying is that if it isn't, I wont fly it, cause I think tis pretty good like it is.

so you doubt it can be made realistic?? Ask dragon about the Su-37 i made

Nope, I'm telling you that if your version of f-22 raptor is not realistic the way I want it, then I wont fly it.

i only have 12 kills

You mockin me?

Hmm we'll see if its realistic...

yea about the F-22. I am working on it and it is not finished yet. When its done, Then you can see if you can still pwn in it because i am going to make it realistic. perhaps like the Su-37 i made with a little difference.

I like the idea of squadron(s) but LIke your saying, we're either gonna have to have lots of people all flying hte same craft, or a few (like we have now) flying diff craft. I like and can fly the f18, but as you know, the f-22 is my best craft.

nlairforce wrote:yes i get what you mean. Perhaps it is better then to start with mixed up aircraft and eventually sort them out to squadrons. And i do not think i should be flight lead. You have much more combat experience then i have.

lol, I feel so great, my Ego is starting to rival Killers, I must be the God of Fighter Pilots, lol.

Actually, during combat operations, I might end up being flight lead with you guys. (I don't want to miss any action), lol. I also want to pass NOS.22.BLUE's kill score of 70+. I am only at 62, lol. I need to keep count of all my kills, lol.

But, for now, I am going to need help training these new fighters. Razgriz, Reverend and Kurt, along with potentially other Fighters. I hope to try training Razgriz first, because he has been waiting for so long, Kurt also. Reverend, if you can work with him that would help out alot. If possible, could you train using the A-29GU ? I don't know how to get the buggs of the Canopy of the A-29, you might have to repint it (Wash it) your self, if you don't like it like that. By using the A-29, we can get the basics of Fighter Training out to students, and once they are all kicking ass in the A-29GU, you might as well do a test dog fight in the fighter they like to fly, using your fighter. Keep practicing till they can get some kills on you, then send them to other educational parts of the FLight Officer Training. REmember, they will need to know that they need to stay with you, untill you are ready for engageing other opponents. This prevents our pilots from going up into the air after enemies alone and on their own. Too many of our pilots did this and got shot down. Like "Flyboy" when he took on the C-5 long ago, although he too down some enemies, he eventually was overwelmed.

That is when pilots get an ego rush for becoming an ace, or thinking that they are invincible in combat from the adrenaline rush, underestimating their opponents air power and ability. They go off thinking they can take them on, then end up losing, like how Bobbyhill did, lol. He could have been able to get behind Killer well before he got to CBA7. If bobbyhill was not cluttered by impatience and an ego, he would have earned a medal for taking down that slow B-52, before it reached its target. If I was closer, I might have been able to help out. Speraticus should have recieved a medal, for keeping me busy long enough for killer to make his run. Though Killer did a suicide run. After all, it was Scar Creak he was flying in with a B-52 with, lol.

yes i get what you mean. Perhaps it is better then to start with mixed up aircraft and eventually sort them out to squadrons. And i do not think i should be flight lead. You have much more combat experience then i have.

nlairforce wrote:We should start with, say an F-18 squadron. If you want to be in the only squadron just fly the plane that needs to be flown. See? Thats what i mean.

This limits the ability for someone to be able to fly what the truly want to fly, rather than fly something that someone else wants them to fly. Not everyone likes the F-18, and if they dont want to fly it, why shold they be forced to. They may decide to leave because they cant fly what they want. It might not be fun for someone to fly in a unit where they are only allowed to fly one kind of plane. Maybe in time, when more members complete training and become Flight Officers for F-18 Fighters, then a F-18 unit could be formed. I am thinking of current abilities. The only unit we can logically form is a "Fighter Unit" Which would comprise of all us fighters. We each have our good abilities in the fighters we like. Maybe after some time, say when Reverend becomes a Flight Officer, maybe he and another person can team up in craft that him and someone else likes to fly. Say, maybe an F-22 or F-14 ? While you and someone who like to fly F-16's could team up as a 2 plane flight of F-16's, and grow from there, recruiting F-16 pilots, that you and your F-16 unit would train, same goes with Reverend, Kurt, with his EF-2000's, and Kendal, with his choise of plane. Growing out and upward, rather than creating a one man unit, we together are able to form one now, of multiple fighter type craft, then once one of us find somenoe, maybe a new member to fly the same type of plane we like, they fly with us, train, and practice with those who fly their type of plane, we all continue to grow. You get what I mean ? It would eventually head toward what you are saying, but without the members, we wont get there. THis is why a REcruitment Program must take place, along with a Training Program, with Directors heading each Program. This means a Celective Recruitment Program, to start with, to train Trainers and Directros.

(Tired, cant sleep, trying to pass out, talk later)

We should start with, say an F-18 squadron. If you want to be in the only squadron just fly the plane that needs to be flown. See? Thats what i mean.

nlairforce wrote:i think a squadron should be of the same aircraft. That is because then you can send out squadrons for several sorts of operations. I mean, for strike bombing you would rather take the superbug then a eurofighter. So i say all same aircraft. And then i also thnk that your choice of pilots for the same squadron is not good cuz rev flies F-22, Ruben does F-18 or F-22 and idk for kurt. But i want to be in several squadrons just as a pilot. cuz i like the F-16 and i originally have the superbug.

I am just wondering how one person can be in multiple units when it take multiple individuals to create one unit. A person in multiple units makes no logical sense. This is why I was thinking that a Unit of Fighters (Same Role) could work like a team, Strike Fighters working close with Superiority Fighters, while 2 guys take on enemy air, the other 2 could take care of the ground. We will not have a Squadron if only one person is part of it, because the unit requires 4 or more flying planes in order to be called a Squadron. 2-to-3 flying planes for a flight, 4-to-7+ for a Squadron. Since we are Vlow on pilots we can only form one fighter squadron, or 2 flights. We are trying to make things more logical now, so if we have the pilots for a unit, then we form a unit out of these pilots. Right now, You, Reverend, Ruben, and Kurt all could form a single "Fighter Squadron" and work as a team. This is the most logical set up, at least untill we get more recruits. The Unit Organizer would deal with who would be formed together into units, once we have someone for that position.

i think a squadron should be of the same aircraft. That is because then you can send out squadrons for several sorts of operations. I mean, for strike bombing you would rather take the superbug then a eurofighter. So i say all same aircraft. And then i also thnk that your choice of pilots for the same squadron is not good cuz rev flies F-22, Ruben does F-18 or F-22 and idk for kurt. But i want to be in several squadrons just as a pilot. cuz i like the F-16 and i originally have the superbug.

nlairforce wrote:to make myself clear. I am officially back in GPEO now, but i do not wish to have a function i had before. I dont know if im good with tactics and i honestly its better for me to fly the plane rather then study whats happening.

Alright, so, it looks like you get to be a "Flight Officer" Lead. MAybe you, Reverend, Ruben and Kurt could be the first GPEO Fighter Squadron, with you heading the Unit as Flight Lead, and scheduleing practice and training operations, to keep the unit in shape, and all ? It might work out.

What do you think about this, should the fighter units be all the same plane, or should it be to where a Fighter Unit could have different types of planes ? Like for example: F-15, F-22, F-16 and EF-2000 for a single Unit ? Each Fighter flying their own plane, all as a Unit. Kind of like how you can equip your pilots in Ace Combat, but in this case, it is each pilot choosing their own plane.

to make myself clear. I am officially back in GPEO now, but i do not wish to have a function i had before. I dont know if im good with tactics and i honestly its better for me to fly the plane rather then study whats happening.

Ok, now that we are close to solving issues and having our land returned, we may begin to think about our Board of Directors section. Each Board member would be heading a Program, and would be trained on the area they would desire to board.

Ths first Board members should be a "Recruitment Director" and a "Training Director." However, we need to first Recruit for T-E Officers before we can have a Recruitment or Training Board Director. In this case, if everyone is on the sam page, we would fist start off as proceeding with the "Selective Recruitment PRogram" in which we start recruiting for lead T-E Officers for each role. We will need 2 individuals for each role, in order to begin the official Recruitment and Training Programs.

If everyone is ready and has no objections, I would assume the temporary "Selective Training Program" until we have enough T-E Officers for each role. Once this part is completed, very quickly we will need a "Recruitment Director" in which this person will head the "Recruitment Program." This person will lead, work with and teach Recruiters and Evaluators how to do their positions, when someone volunteers to do so. Any GPEO Member can be a Recruiter. Once someone Recruits and the Recruit becomes an Active Member, the person who recruited them will earn a "Recruiters Ribbon." Note that most positions are not without rewards. The Recruitment Directors will be the proper person handing out Recruitment Ribbons.

The Training Program will already be ready for Training Recruits, and during their training another Board member must become estalished, in order to organize trained members (Flight Officers) into units at bases all over the world. This position would be good for some that we know, but I doubt they would join or work with us.

After a Organizer, the Operations Director would need to be established or appointed or volunteered. THis person would be taught AWACS, or would be an AWACS Officer, as well as havign a temporary staff of the lead Officers of Tactical Combat Groups. HThis person would form TCG's and have the highest ranking officer of each TCG in close communication with the AWACS, and the AWACS would (if the TCG Lead Officers Requested), update the positions of the enemy. The AWACS would be the Eyes of the Sky, and work with both teams. Each TCG would be given regions of training operations to be their temorary occupation zones, in which both TCG's would conduct wargames on their own, scheduleing battles and operations with the other TCG at any time. Large operations would be planned to take place ahead of time, so no official plan of action would occur before hand, because when we plan battles no one shows. THese would be all day things so that if someone only has an hour of time available, they could participate in the TCG's side they are stationed with at the time. TCG's would change all the time, and would be formed togetherby the Operations Director, and the highest ranking officer out of the TCG would assume leadership of the TCG. Meetings (Just like the real world militaries) would take place with the Operations Director and Organization Director so that everyone will know who is leading what.

The Highest ranking officer in the TCG would lead the leaders of each unit within the TCG, each unit in the TCG is led by their own unit leaders, and each flight is lead by a flight leader. THis would be organized by the leaders of the Units. All of this is done like how actual airforces do it. The only differences it that this is Virtual and not Real. However, we hope that those who attain such positions will have responcibility to do their part in this great team. And after this starts, know that nothing can stop it (unless we all decide not to go on line any more).

Read this and try to figure out where you might be wanting to be part of.

Recruiter - Member or Flight Officer who goes out into FSX, and Recruits

Recruit Evaluator - Member or Flight Officer, Evaluates Recruits

Flight Officer - Pilot of a Unit (Everyone eventually becomes one of these)

Training/Evaluation Officer - Trains and Evaluates Recruits/Members/Students

Staff Officer/Board Director - Heads one of the Programs (Requires Advance Training)

Other - (Possible future positions)